Posted by bemused on April 11, 2008 at 19:43:49:
In Reply to: FLDS posted by Captain Gary on April 10, 2008 at 22:26:52:
: Ok...
: When I was a young boy I couldn't wait until I had the chance to go on a church mission and serve my church.But as things turned out I got married and started school having been almost killed in a motorcycle accident at 16 years old the year before.
: I was unable to leave the area and my doctors care.
: All my young life I had been taught,be nice,go on a mission,teach others our ways,baptize people into the faith,come home,marry your sweetheart in the temple,have lots of kids and obey the rules of the church and the laws of the land.That's the way it was and still is for young Mormon men.
: Sounds nice and believe me I tried.
: But life ain't so warm and fuzzy.
: Over the years I have changed my outlook on life and the religion I was born into.
: When I see what's goin' on down in Texas with the FLDS people and the law I gotta funny feeling about the whole mess.Somethings wrong here.
: If the men are breaking the law, abusing children,punish them to the full extent of the law.If the women are involved with helping the men,punish them also.
: Pulling over 400 kids outta the only home they have ever known...whoa.
: Place them with people who have no idea what Mormonism or Fundalmentalist Moronism is all about...another whoa.
: But I'm not telling you guys all this for any other reason than I have first hand knowledge of how things work in the LDS,RLDS or FLDS and other off shoots of the Mormon Church.Been there...
: But one thing I do see on the news is no ACLU,no Jessie Jackson,no Al Sharpton or Gloria jumping up and down and yelling their heads off.
: If this was to take place in a holy house for Muslims or Barack's church (the rounding up of all those 400 plus FLDS kids and women) there would be a firestorm and the religious right and left would be screaming bloddy murder on both sides.
: I'm not saying any thing other than what I see and believe to be a witch hunt.
: Like I said..if they are hurting kids and women,
: lock 'em up and throw away the key.
: Where's the girl who made the call to CPS or whatever they are called in Texas.
: WMD's...?
: Thank goodness it did not turn into another Waco.
: Capt.Gary
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Hey Capt-
Remember Ruby Ridge as well as Waco? As someone who may totally disagree with the people involved in both of those cases relgious practices, I want to know what does the government think they are doing???? We have a Constitution that states there is a SEPARATION between church and state and just because the state ( whomever THAT may be depending who is in power at the time) doesn't like what a particular religion does ( as long as it isn't against the law) then what business does the state have in intervening??? All I have heard is some 16 year old didn't want to get married-16???? There are still states in this country where 14 for females is the legal age for consent...why doesn't this particular group in governmental power right now be a little more concerned about their own actions (approving torture, no habeas corpus, bombing civilizans etc) then some religious group... after all, aren't they proudly self-proclaimed "Christians" so shouldn't they be more concerned about the beam in their eye than the sliver in their neighbor's???(as Jesus said in the New Testament???). As an American citizen who votes and pays taxes, I could care less about polygamy, what consenting adults (however that is defined by the individual state involved) do in privacy, or what in the hell anyone else believes in-I care about when those thoughts impact others in the public spaces we must all share.
I personally think the media and government are just using this to divert everyone's attention from what's really going on with the economy and war..